Honolulu鈥檚 largest taxi dispatch companies are gearing up for what鈥檚 expected to be a protracted fight to convince the City Council to make Uber and other ride-booking companies adhere to the same regulations all cabs must follow.

鈥淎ll we want is a level playing field,鈥 says Howard Higa, president and CEO of TheCab, Hawaii鈥檚 largest taxi dispatching company.

Transportation network companies such as Uber and Lyft offer customers who tap an app on their smart phone taxi-like services but in the drivers鈥 personal cars, driven without taxi licenses.

Howard Higa of TheCab, Hawaii’s largest taxi dispatching company, thinks Uber and Lyft should face the same regulations as taxi听companies.

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At Uber, the bill for such a ride goes straight to the passenger’s credit card on file with the company. In Uber鈥檚 ride sharing service, 听no tipping is听required or expected.

Uber fans love the convenience and pricing, which can sometimes be cheaper than regular cab fares.

Currently, neither the state nor Hawaii鈥檚 counties regulate the drivers of Uber or other ride-hailing companies.

鈥淯ber and other similar TNCs deliver passengers from point A to point B for a payment. That鈥檚 exactly like a cab. They should be under the same regulations as taxi drivers.鈥 鈥 Howard Higa, TheCab

鈥淚t鈥檚 like the wild west out there,鈥 says Higa.

鈥淚t鈥檚 a whole new animal,鈥 says Dale Evans, of Charley鈥檚 Taxi.

Higa says since Uber and other ride-booking operations have come here his cab drivers have lost about 20 percent of their revenue or close to $250,000 a year.

鈥淥ur hands are tied with all the regulations we must follow and the fees and charges we must pay to operate. Obviously we can鈥檛 compete with companies who are free from the same constraints,鈥 says Higa.听鈥淚t infuriates all the taxi companies here.鈥

Higa鈥檚 company is joining forces with Charley鈥檚 Taxi, EcoCab and taxi drivers to try to convince the Honolulu City Council that Uber and Lyft drivers should be certified by the city just like cabbies.

Mayor Kirk Caldwell said Monday that any regulations to be imposed to govern taxis and the new ride-booking companies have to be fair.

鈥淭hey have to provide a level playing field and not have one set of rules for one group and another set of rules for another group. They all must be able to compete fairly,鈥 says Caldwell.

The mayor鈥檚 spokesman, Jesse Broder Van Dyke, says a “level playing field” could mean reducing some of the many regulations imposed on traditional 听taxis now to allow fair competition with ride-booking companies.

Uber: One Size Does Not Fit All

Brian Hughes, general manager for Uber Technologies in Hawaii, says the companies are not traditional taxis and should not have to follow traditional cab regulations.

He says Uber is valuable to the community for the alternate form of transportation it provides as well as the job opportunities for car owners to make money as drivers in their spare time.

Hughes says all that talk of new rules is just cab companies wanting to see Uber fail.

鈥淢any traditional taxi dispatch companies would prefer to regulate Uber out of business than to have to compete with it,鈥 says Hughes.

Higa disagrees.

Brian Hughes, Uber

Brian Hughes, general manager for Uber Technologies in Hawaii

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鈥淚 don鈥檛 care if 50 ridesharing companies come to Honolulu,” he says. “I love competition but the competition has to be on a level playing field with everyone playing by the same rules we are forced to follow.鈥

And Higa stresses he鈥檚 not against Uber鈥檚 modern听business platform. He says TheCab now has its own cell phone app to give its customers an alternative to the company鈥檚 regular phone number 听鈥斕齪opularized by comedian Frank De Lima as听鈥渇our tutu tutu tutu.

Uber has been in Hawaii for almost two years with operations in Honolulu and on Maui. The company prides itself on transparency but it refuses to say how many drivers it has in Hawaii.

鈥淧roprietary information,鈥 says Hughes.

Hughes calls ride-booking 鈥渁 new, innovative model鈥 based on computer software that was not in anyone鈥檚 wildest dreams when government regulations were created for taxis more than 50听years ago.

Hughes says Uber is okay with being regulated by the state, but says the regulations should be attuned to its new business model, not to municipal taxi regulations from the long-gone past.

Higa says 鈥淯ber and other similar TNCs deliver passengers from point A to point B for a payment. That鈥檚 exactly like a cab. They should be under the same regulations as taxi drivers.鈥

On Oahu, that would mean written and verbal tests, regular vehicle inspections, and physical health exams and car inspections. 听 听

Pricing Called ‘Gouging or Extortion’

Higa says the transportation network companies also should be required to have meters in their cars and have their fares set by ordinance.

Uber uses what is called surge pricing. 听That means if there is high demand for drivers at certain times, 听the company’s software pricing algorithm can automatically raise the price to balance supply and demand. But passengers are informed about the price hike to give them the option of refusing the ride.

Hughes says, 鈥淒ynamic pricing is to get more cars on the road and help ensure users always have a ride when they need it most.鈥

Cab company owner Higa calls surge pricing鈥済ouging or extortion.鈥 He says it鈥檚 another way taxi drivers can鈥檛 compete because the city sets their prices.

Higa says Uber and Lyft drivers should have to carry their own commercial drivers鈥 insurance because they are doing commercial business.

鈥淢any traditional taxi dispatch companies would prefer to regulate Uber out of business than to have to compete with it.鈥 鈥 Brian Hughes, Uber Technologies

Currently, Uber鈥檚 drivers carry their personal car insurance, which is in effect for their vehicle until the moment they agree to accept a passenger. 听 听 听听

Hughes says when a the driver accepts the ride, even before the passenger sets foot in the car, Uber鈥檚 $1 million commercial liability coverage becomes the primary insurance until the passengers is dropped off.听Drivers听are also covered by the company鈥檚 $1 million uninsured/under-insured motorist coverage and collision and personal injury coverage.

Hughes says that鈥檚 more insurance coverage than most cabs are carrying.

Charley鈥檚 Taxi president Evans says Uber, Lyft and other ride-hailing drivers should be required to be fingerprinted as part of their criminal background checks just like all of Oahu鈥檚 cab drivers have been since before World War II.

Evans calls the requirement for a health exam essential 鈥渟o they don鈥檛 pass on communicable diseases and so they can drive听safely without succumbing to a stroke or another major ailment.鈥

Uber says its drivers have already been found physically fit to drive by passing their driver鈥檚 license tests. But the driver鈥檚 license test only requires a vision test, not a complete medical examination to determine a driver鈥檚 physical health.

Cab companies have raised concerns about passenger safety when the passenger gets in an unregulated ride-sharing vehicle.

Hughes says Uber does thorough criminal background checks on all its drivers by reviewing county, multi-state and federal records going back seven years.

Honolulu County requires that cab drivers have clear criminal and driving violation records, but only for only the last two years, before they are certified to drive.

PUC Takes a Pass

Hawaii lawmakers this year considered but failed to pass a bill to regulate Uber and other ride-hailing companies by putting them under the state Public Utilities Commission.

PUC chairman Randy Iwase opposed听the idea, saying the TNCs should be regulated by the city like all other car-for-hire services. Iwase also said that the PUC didn’t have the resources to oversee the new companies.

While embracing the idea of the state rather than city regulating transportation network companies, Uber did not like some of the provisions in this year鈥檚 legislative effort that would have required the company鈥檚 drivers to buy additional insurance it says was unnecessary.

Although lawmakers shelved the “Uber Bill鈥 this year, it is expected to be revived next session.

鈥淯ber is setting a precedent by its impact on other businesses and industries that has not been thought out by the politicians and business leaders.鈥 鈥 Dale Evans, Charley鈥檚 Taxi

Hughes says Uber will be back at the Legislature to keep pushing for state rather than city regulation. Uber favors state permits for all ride-booking companies in Hawaii and thinks there should be state driver screening and insurance regulations.

Hughes says state regulation will bring more stability to the hundreds of Hawaii drivers who are depending on Uber for additional income.

And he says a more stable environment could bring Hawaii some of Uber鈥檚 more popular products, such as delivery services and Uber Pool, a service to connect strangers living near each other in car pools.

Lawmakers in 19 states this year passed measures to regulate transportation network companies. In addition, seven states are considering legislation for TNCs.

Nevada has banned Uber, Lyft and other ride-sharing companies, 听but the TNCs are expected to be back on the road again following implementation of new听regulations in a law signed by Gov. Brian Sandoval in May.

Meanwhile, Honolulu鈥檚 taxi companieswill do everything they can to keep the regulation issue with the city where they say it belongs.

And also in the bill they are crafting, they will to try to loosen some of theregulations taxi cabs have been under so long, such as the archaic rule that makes them wait for riders in taxi stands.

Evans of Charley鈥檚 Taxi says, 鈥淯ber is setting a precedent by its impact on other businesses and industries that has not been thought out by the politicians and business leaders.鈥

Higa says, 鈥淎fter the ride-share companies destroy our industry, the politicians will say, 鈥楽orry. We should have prevented them from coming in.鈥”

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