Mayor-elect Peter Carlisle has consistently spoken in strong support of the city鈥檚 rail project.

When asked about the $5.5 billion transit plan in an interview at the end of the day Friday, he reiterated his stance.

鈥淟ook, we need rail,鈥 Carlisle said. 鈥淭he most important thing about rail right now is getting it going.鈥

But Acting Mayor Kirk Caldwell, who lost to Carlisle in the mayoral election by 4 percentage points, is expressing concerns that the mayor elect doesn’t know enough about the complex project and isn’t taking the steps to educate himself.

With the days ticking until he’s sworn in on Oct. 8, Carlisle told Civil Beat that he鈥檚 focusing first and foremost on assembling his team.

The one person he has identified as someone he wants on his side, acting Prosecutor Douglas Chin, had little to say about rail in a separate interview with Civil Beat.

鈥淚 think the voters have spoken,鈥 said Chin, who still must be confirmed by the City Council before he takes the city’s No. 2 job of managing director. 鈥淚 think the train has left the station.鈥

Despite their support for the project, the city鈥檚 new leadership represents a shift from the rail-centric administration led by former Mayor Mufi Hannemann and Caldwell. For much of his 18 months as the city鈥檚 managing director, Caldwell worked on advancing the Honolulu High-Capacity Transit Corridor Project. Now, with less than two weeks left as acting mayor, Caldwell is focusing on how he can hand off a project he calls 鈥渧ery near and dear to my heart鈥 to a new team of city leaders.

Chin acknowledges he鈥檚 less interested in rail than his predecessor. Instead, Chin said his personal priorities 鈥 after 鈥渄oing everything I can to assist Peter in his agenda鈥 鈥 will be related to social services.

鈥淚’m more interested in the social services, that鈥檚 more my strength,鈥 Chin said. 鈥淲e鈥檙e trying to make cutbacks and trying to be fiscally responsible but at the same time I really feel for people because they depend on the social services.鈥

鈥淚鈥檝e offered the mayor elect access to all our cabinet members for briefings,鈥 Caldwell said. “I would think he鈥檇 want multiple briefings on the budget, briefings on rail and on the sewage consent decree. He has not told me that he鈥檚 wanted briefings in those areas. I would think he would want multiple briefings.鈥

Carlisle confirmed he hasn鈥檛 met with the project鈥檚 directors, or anyone else in the city鈥檚 Department of Transportation Services.

鈥淚 have spoken with somebody who鈥檚 intimately involved in rail, but not recently,” Carlisle said. 鈥淚 was given lots of information about rail from lots of different sources.鈥

As far as his own independent research goes, Carlisle said he鈥檒l learn what those who are better informed tell him is essential to know and understand about the project.

鈥淚鈥檓 not going to read (the Final Environmental Impact Statement),鈥 Carlisle said. 鈥淟et the research division get me a briefing on it, and let me know the salient points. I don鈥檛 need to be reading that kind of stuff. I need people to tell me what to read.鈥

When pressed, Carlisle said he will eventually plan a meeting with city transportation leaders. He said he also plans to focus on connections at the state level. Carlisle has a close relationship with outgoing Gov. Linda Lingle, who must sign off on the EIS and has raised serious concerns about the project, commissioning a $300,000 study of its financing.

鈥淚 think I know what (Democrat gubernatorial candidate) Neil Abercrombie鈥檚 position is on it,鈥 Carlisle said. 鈥淚 need to talk to (Republican gubernatorial candidate) Duke (Ainoa). I also need to call and see if I can speak to the governor and see what her position is. I am going to call her and see whether she wants to meet.鈥

A spokesman for Lingle did not return phone calls before this story was published.

Caldwell said the new mayor will also have to reconsider his relationship with one of the state鈥檚 most influential political allies: U.S. Sen. Daniel K. Inouye.

鈥淵ou have to have a good relationship with Dan Inouye, and some of the comments (Carlisle has) made make it sound like he doesn鈥檛 have that relationship,鈥 Caldwell said. 鈥淏ut I think he鈥檒l be realist and realize he has to be cordial, has to have working relationship with these people.鈥

Caldwell said his frustration extends beyond his disappointment over having lost the election, but says it鈥檚 compounded by difficulty getting a hold of the mayor elect. Caldwell said Carlisle wasn鈥檛 returning his phone calls Thursday or Friday, and that his voicemail was full.

鈥淭hese things are highly, highly complicated and very technical,鈥 Caldwell said. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think he understands the acceptance of the FEIS. He does not understand the process, and he needs to understand it really, really clearly.鈥

Carlisle, at the end of the day Friday, pointed out that because he鈥檚 inheriting the project at the end of the design phase, his responsibilities will be different than the kind of work the project required of Hannemann or Caldwell.

鈥淎ctually, a lot of the groundwork has already been done,鈥 Carlisle said. 鈥淚 think the most significant thing to do is to get the shovels in the ground in the first section of construction.鈥

But Caldwell says it鈥檚 critical for Carlisle to understand what 鈥渁dditional hurdles,鈥 remain before that can happen, particularly as the makeup of the City Council changes. Only four members of the nine-member council will remain after the November general election. The city will rely on the City Council to approve special permits related to construction along some coastal areas of the rail route.

鈥淚 don鈥檛 know if he understands that,鈥 Caldwell said. 鈥淚f we get a council in there that鈥檚 anti-rail, it鈥檇 be another way to stop the project.鈥

The acting mayor鈥檚 candor reveals a rare wavering of confidence about the future of rail. But Carlisle dismisses such worries, saying negative sentiment is inevitable with a project of this scale.

鈥淓very fact that exists in the EIS, every statement, is going to be disputed by one side or the other,” Carlisle said. “On one side, they鈥檙e going to claim it鈥檚 the Bible, it鈥檚 the word from the mount, and the other side is going to say the exact opposite. What you really need to do is to get through all of that nonsense and figure out how to get the rail going.鈥

Those who are committed to stopping rail aren鈥檛 letting up.

Panos Prevedouros, who ran against Carlisle promising to kill rail, released a statement Thursday, writing, 鈥淣ow the rail is all but dead and I will make sure that it is. I don’t think Peter Carlisle is well informed about rail.鈥

Prevedouros went on to detail allegations against the city, claiming construction has begun illegally along Farrington Highway.

Caldwell disputed those claims.

鈥淓verything we鈥檙e doing, we鈥檙e getting permission to do from the FTA,鈥 Caldwell said. 鈥淪o these are all testing in anticipation of construction approval under the appropriate agencies and processes.鈥

Carlisle said he has known all along that, if elected, he would be tasked with oversight of the rail project. His priority now, he said, is to surround himself with a team of people who can best enable him to do so. He said he’ll likely announce additional leadership picks before his Oct. 8 swearing in.

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